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Exhibit A: We all know that in a fair justice system, everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but, just as a matter of speculation, what if the accused are 100% guilty of a crime? Is it “justice” that allows their defense lawyers to find “reasonable doubt” after seven year’s delay? Or to find minute technical differences in evidence in an attempt to discredit witnesses? Seems to me that in these instances, the REAL criminals and what REALLY happened are not on trial - the procedures are.
Perhaps there is room for doubt: is a conviction of 99%, 96% or 85% guilty going to help the REAL victims in a trial? Where is the “Defense” counsel for murdered victims - do we need another counsel group that is allowed to speak for the defense-less (i.e. Counsel C) to clarify technical issues related to what is initially deemed as “inadmissible evidence”?
How can a society progress when it allows gang members to make a mockery of justice? And what is “justice” to a drug dealer / enforcer? Why is it that they have absolutely no respect for law when they commit their crimes, yet fully use and abuse law when it serves their purposes in criminal proceedings? Or is such a trial necessary so that next time they get better at avoiding getting caught for their actions, or finding a better defense lawyer (or heaven forbid, even more defense lawyers) to uncover more unconsequential loopholes? But I digress, since, thank goodness I am not a lawyer, and...
Disclaimer: Note that all people, places and events mentioned above (Exhibit A), and all the above rambling comments above (Exhibit A) are not related to, nor have anything to do with the “Surrey Six Trial” (Exhibit B) which is coincidentally taking place in Vancouver, B.C., starting on September 30, 2013, six years after the original slayings occurred on October 19, 2007 at the Balmoral Tower in Surrey, B.C.
Exhibit B: In this “Surrey Six Trial”, three gangsters are accused in one of the most heinous murders in B.C. history: Matthew Johnston, Cory Haevischer and Quang Vinh Thang (Michael) Le. Together, with Dennis Karbovanec (who pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in 2009) and Jamie Bacon, they are accused of killing Edward Narong, Corey Lal, Michael Lal, Ryan Bartolomeo in a gang-related slaying. Ed Schellenberg and Chris Mohan were also killed as innocent bystanders.
May justice prevail for all of the accused, and if they are not guilty (as they all pled), my sympathy goes out to them. However, if they are guilty (in whole or part), may REAL justice be dealt in this case... but of course, in a legal sense - not in the style that they themselves have become accustomed to...
I wonder what Ed Schellenberg and Chris Mohan would think, looking down at these proceedings...
Quote from CBC’s Royal Canadian Air Farce, “... but I’m not bitter!”
by Joe Defries, brother-in-law of Ed Schellenberg
Vancouver Sun Update on 2 December 2017: “Bombshell Jamie Bacon ruling breaks hearts of murder victims’ families. The families of the two bystanders killed in the Surrey Six drug murders a decade ago have been left disgusted and broken-hearted after the B.C. Supreme Court threw out charges against Jamie Bacon, the man accused of being the mastermind behind the slaughter.
Steve Brown, who lost his brother-in-law Ed Schellenberg, said Saturday that he felt numb when he heard news of the court’s ruling. He said that he is too ‘worn out’ to be angry.
‘There is no trust left. People are just disgusted. They are just disgusted with the whole thing,’ Brown said.”
“The trouble with law is lawyers.” - Clarence Darrow
QuotaBillsLawyers are natural politicians. - Clarence Darrow
Justice delayed is justice denied. - William Gladstone
Common sense often makes good law. - William O Douglas
Generosity is the flower of justice. - Nathaniel Hawthorne
I don't want tea, I want justice! - Ally Carter
Don't judge your taco by its price. - Hunter S. Thompson
Lawyers, I suppose, were children once. - Charles Lamb
Do you not know that I am above the law? - James II
A flagrant violation of international law. - Unknown
Our ancestors ... were laborers, not lawyers. - Thomas Jefferson
Gravity isn't easy, but it's the law. - Unknown
Heartbreak is a loss. Divorce is a piece of paper. - Taylor J Reid
Lawyers are the foot soldiers of our Constitution. - Rennard Strickland
Going to law is losing a cow for the sake of a cat. - Mark Twain
Lawyers believe a man is innocent until proven broke. - Robin Hall
Talk is cheap until you hire a lawyer or an accountant. - Joe Defries
Ignorance of the law excuses no man from practicing it. - Addison Mizner
You're breakin' about 18 laws, maybe even a dozen. - Archie Bunker
He taught me housekeeping; when I divorce I keep the house. - Zsa Zsa Gabor
Don't judge me by my past. I don't live there anymore. - Unknown
How many lawyer jokes are there? One, the rest are true stories. - Thomas F Shubnell
Death is not the end. There remains the litigation over the estate. - Ambrose Bierce
When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself. - Wayne W. Dyer
Laws are not masters but servants, and he rules them who obeys them. - Henry Ward Beecher
A society that has more justice is a society that needs less charity. - Ralph Nader
The United States is the greatest law factory the world has ever known. - Charles E Hughes
Layers are the only persons in whom ignorance of the law is not punished. - Jeremy Bentham
Tennis is like a lawsuit: activity from across the court is often surprising. - Unknown
Lawyers are operators of toll bridges which anyone in search of justice must pass. - Jane Bryant Quinn
The four absolutes we all have in our minds: love, justice, evil, and forgiveness. - Ravi Zacharias
Lawyers are like rhinoceroses: thick skinned, short-sighted, and always ready to charge. - David Mellor
My husband and I had our best sex during our divorce. It was like cheating on our lawyers. - Priscilla Lopez
A criminal remains a criminal whether he uses a convict's suit or a monarch's crown. - Victor Hugo
A mother's love for her child is like nothing else in the world. It knows no law, no pity. - Agatha Christie
Whatever their other contributions to our society, lawyers could be an important source of protein. - Guindon
Put least trust in him who is foremost to praise you,
Nor judge of a road till it draw to the end. - John B O'Reilly
Change is the law of life. And those who look only to the past or present are certain to miss the future. - John F Kennedy
A lawyer's duty is to read the law well himself, then tell the people what it is, and let them act upon it. - Brigham Young
Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods. - Albert Einstein
When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you, you know your nation is doomed. - Ayn Rand
If we judge ourselves only by our aspirations and everyone else only their conduct we shall soon reach a very false conclusion. - Calvin Coolidge
It is the business of a lawyer to find a hole to creep out of any law that is in his way; and if there is no hole, to make one. - W Ouseley
The question arises: whether all lawyers are the same. This is like asking whether everything that gets into a sewer is garbage. - Florynce R Kennedy
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress. - John Adams
Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it was stupid. - Albert Einstein
The denial of an objective moral law based on the compulsion to deny the existence of God results ultimately in the denial of evil itself. - Ravi Zacharias
A judge who likes every outcome he reaches is very likely a bad judge, stretching for results he prefers rather than those the law demands. - Neil Gorsuch
The Law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich, as well as the poor, to sleep under the bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread. - Anatole France
When you have police officers who abuse citizens, you erode public confidence in law enforcement. That makes the job of good police officers unsafe. - Mary F Berry
There must be some honest lawyers at the New York bar, and some impartial judges on the New York bench, but I should not like to be set to find them. - Lyman Abbott
see also
Legal Section
Justice Is Blind - Part 2
Gun Laws
Legal Assistance For All
Memorial Service for Ed Schellenberg
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