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Exhibit A: We all know that in a fair justice system, everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but, just as a matter of speculation, what if the accused are 100% guilty of a crime? Is it “justice” that allows their defense lawyers to find “reasonable doubt” after seven year’s delay? Or to find minute technical differences in evidence in an attempt to discredit witnesses? Seems to me that in these instances, the REAL criminals and what REALLY happened are not on trial - the procedures are.
Perhaps there is room for doubt: is a conviction of 99%, 96% or 85% guilty going to help the REAL victims in a trial? Where is the “Defense” counsel for murdered victims - do we need another counsel group that is allowed to speak for the defense-less (i.e. Counsel C) to clarify technical issues related to what is initially deemed as “inadmissible evidence”?
How can a society progress when it allows gang members to make a mockery of justice? And what is “justice” to a drug dealer / enforcer? Why is it that they have absolutely no respect for law when they commit their crimes, yet fully use and abuse law when it serves their purposes in criminal proceedings? Or is such a trial necessary so that next time they get better at avoiding getting caught for their actions, or finding a better defense lawyer (or heaven forbid, even more defense lawyers) to uncover more unconsequential loopholes? But I digress, since, thank goodness I am not a lawyer, and...
Disclaimer: Note that all people, places and events mentioned above (Exhibit A), and all the above rambling comments above (Exhibit A) are not related to, nor have anything to do with the “Surrey Six Trial” (Exhibit B) which is coincidentally taking place in Vancouver, B.C., starting on September 30, 2013, six years after the original slayings occurred on October 19, 2007 at the Balmoral Tower in Surrey, B.C.
Exhibit B: In this “Surrey Six Trial”, three gangsters are accused in one of the most heinous murders in B.C. history: Matthew Johnston, Cory Haevischer and Quang Vinh Thang (Michael) Le. Together, with Dennis Karbovanec (who pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in 2009) and Jamie Bacon, they are accused of killing Edward Narong, Corey Lal, Michael Lal, Ryan Bartolomeo in a gang-related slaying. Ed Schellenberg and Chris Mohan were also killed as innocent bystanders.
May justice prevail for all of the accused, and if they are not guilty (as they all pled), my sympathy goes out to them. However, if they are guilty (in whole or part), may REAL justice be dealt in this case... but of course, in a legal sense - not in the style that they themselves have become accustomed to...
I wonder what Ed Schellenberg and Chris Mohan would think, looking down at these proceedings...
Quote from CBC’s Royal Canadian Air Farce, “... but I’m not bitter!”
by Joe Defries, brother-in-law of Ed Schellenberg
Vancouver Sun Update on 2 December 2017: “Bombshell Jamie Bacon ruling breaks hearts of murder victims’ families. The families of the two bystanders killed in the Surrey Six drug murders a decade ago have been left disgusted and broken-hearted after the B.C. Supreme Court threw out charges against Jamie Bacon, the man accused of being the mastermind behind the slaughter.
Steve Brown, who lost his brother-in-law Ed Schellenberg, said Saturday that he felt numb when he heard news of the court’s ruling. He said that he is too ‘worn out’ to be angry.
‘There is no trust left. People are just disgusted. They are just disgusted with the whole thing,’ Brown said.”
“The trouble with law is lawyers.” - Clarence Darrow
QuotaBillsNecessity hath no law. - Oliver Cromwell
Agree, for the law is costly. - William Camden
The trouble with law is lawyers. - Clarence Darrow
Useless laws weaken necessary laws. - Charles de Secondat
Don't judge folks by their relatives. - Unknown
Law is order, and good law is good order. - Aristotle
Swift justice demands more than just swiftness. - Potter Stewart
Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. - Seneca
The worst form of injustice is pretended justice. - Plato
Writing laws is easy, but governing is difficult. - Leo Tolstoy
Let justice be done though the heavens should fall. - John Adams
Judge a man by his questions rather than his answers. - Voltaire
He taught me housekeeping; when I divorce I keep the house. - Zsa Zsa Gabor
If there were no bad people there would be no good lawyers. - Charles Dickens
The innkeeper loves the drunkard, but not for a son-in-law. - Yiddish Proverb
People hasten to judge in order not to be judged themselves. - Albert Camus
A lawyer's opinion is worth nothing unless it is paid for. - Unknown
Military justice is to justice what military music is to music. - Groucho Marx
There is no distinctly American criminal class - except Congress. - Mark Twain
It should be possible to explain the laws of physics to a barmaid. - Albert Einstein
Death is not the end. There remains the litigation over the estate. - Ambrose Bierce
A society that has more justice is a society that needs less charity. - Ralph Nader
Laws control the lesser man... Right conduct controls the greater one. - Mark Twain
I don't want to know what the law is, I want to know who the judge is. - Roy M. Cohn
The only thing a lawyer won't question is the legitimacy of his mother. - WC Fields
I'm not upset about my divorce. I'm only upset I'm not a widow. - Roseanne Barr
Lawyers are like beavers: They get in the middle of the stream and dam it up. - Donald Rumsfeld
The Second Law of Pies: they must be baked, not fried (or boiled, or steamed). - Janet Clarkson
True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of justice. - Martin Luther King, Jr.
Your mother's down there throwing a monkey wrench into the halls of justice. - Archie Bunker
If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey, he is obligated to do so. - Thomas Jefferson
To make laws that man cannot, and will not obey, serves to bring all law into contempt. - Elizabeth C Stanton
Justice is the insurance we have on our lives, and obedience is the premium we pay for it. - William Penn
My husband and I had our best sex during our divorce. It was like cheating on our lawyers. - Priscilla Lopez
Disease is war with the laws of our being, and all war, as a great general has said, is hell. - Lewis G. Janes
Whatever their other contributions to our society, lawyers could be an important source of protein. - Guindon
The trouble with our laws these days is that the criminals know their rights better than their wrongs. - Unknown
I wanted to do something nice so I bought my mother-in-law a chair. Now they won't let me plug it in. - Henny Youngman
Shakespeare said pretty well everything and what he left out, James Joyce, with a judge from meself, put in. - Brendan Behan
The doctor sees all the weakness of mankind, the lawyer all the wickedness, the theologian all the stupidity. - Arthur Schopenhauer
The legal system is often a mystery, and we, its priests, preside over rituals baffling to everyday citizens. - Henry G. Miller
Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws. - Plato
No oppression is so heavy or lasting as that which is inflicted by the perversion and exorbitance of legal authority. - Joseph Addison
Man's capacity for justice makes democracy possible, but man's inclination to injustice makes democracy necessary. - Reinhold Niebuhr
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes. After that, who cares? He's a mile away and you've got his shoes. - Billy Connolly
If lawyers are disbarred and clergymen defrocked, doesn't it follow that electricians can be delighted, musicians denoted? - George Carlin
Laws are like spiders' webs which, if anything small falls into them they ensnare it, but large things break through and escape. - Solon
As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality. - Albert Einstein
Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid. - Albert Einstein
The Law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich, as well as the poor, to sleep under the bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread. - Anatole France
see also
Legal Section
Justice Is Blind - Part 2
Gun Laws
Legal Assistance For All
Memorial Service for Ed Schellenberg
Surrey Six Trial - Word Search Puzzle
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