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Exhibit A: We all know that in a fair justice system, everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but, just as a matter of speculation, what if the accused are 100% guilty of a crime? Is it “justice” that allows their defense lawyers to find “reasonable doubt” after seven year’s delay? Or to find minute technical differences in evidence in an attempt to discredit witnesses? Seems to me that in these instances, the REAL criminals and what REALLY happened are not on trial - the procedures are.
Perhaps there is room for doubt: is a conviction of 99%, 96% or 85% guilty going to help the REAL victims in a trial? Where is the “Defense” counsel for murdered victims - do we need another counsel group that is allowed to speak for the defense-less (i.e. Counsel C) to clarify technical issues related to what is initially deemed as “inadmissible evidence”?
How can a society progress when it allows gang members to make a mockery of justice? And what is “justice” to a drug dealer / enforcer? Why is it that they have absolutely no respect for law when they commit their crimes, yet fully use and abuse law when it serves their purposes in criminal proceedings? Or is such a trial necessary so that next time they get better at avoiding getting caught for their actions, or finding a better defense lawyer (or heaven forbid, even more defense lawyers) to uncover more unconsequential loopholes? But I digress, since, thank goodness I am not a lawyer, and...
Disclaimer: Note that all people, places and events mentioned above (Exhibit A), and all the above rambling comments above (Exhibit A) are not related to, nor have anything to do with the “Surrey Six Trial” (Exhibit B) which is coincidentally taking place in Vancouver, B.C., starting on September 30, 2013, six years after the original slayings occurred on October 19, 2007 at the Balmoral Tower in Surrey, B.C.
Exhibit B: In this “Surrey Six Trial”, three gangsters are accused in one of the most heinous murders in B.C. history: Matthew Johnston, Cory Haevischer and Quang Vinh Thang (Michael) Le. Together, with Dennis Karbovanec (who pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in 2009) and Jamie Bacon, they are accused of killing Edward Narong, Corey Lal, Michael Lal, Ryan Bartolomeo in a gang-related slaying. Ed Schellenberg and Chris Mohan were also killed as innocent bystanders.
May justice prevail for all of the accused, and if they are not guilty (as they all pled), my sympathy goes out to them. However, if they are guilty (in whole or part), may REAL justice be dealt in this case... but of course, in a legal sense - not in the style that they themselves have become accustomed to...
I wonder what Ed Schellenberg and Chris Mohan would think, looking down at these proceedings...
Quote from CBC’s Royal Canadian Air Farce, “... but I’m not bitter!”
by Joe Defries, brother-in-law of Ed Schellenberg
Vancouver Sun Update on 2 December 2017: “Bombshell Jamie Bacon ruling breaks hearts of murder victims’ families. The families of the two bystanders killed in the Surrey Six drug murders a decade ago have been left disgusted and broken-hearted after the B.C. Supreme Court threw out charges against Jamie Bacon, the man accused of being the mastermind behind the slaughter.
Steve Brown, who lost his brother-in-law Ed Schellenberg, said Saturday that he felt numb when he heard news of the court’s ruling. He said that he is too ‘worn out’ to be angry.
‘There is no trust left. People are just disgusted. They are just disgusted with the whole thing,’ Brown said.”
“The trouble with law is lawyers.” - Clarence Darrow
QuotaBillsThe law is silent during war. - Cicero
Lawyers are natural politicians. - Clarence Darrow
Justice delayed is justice denied. - William Gladstone
Common sense often makes good law. - William O Douglas
A lawsuit helps keep lawyers clothed. - Unknown
He is no lawyer who cannot take two sides. - Charles Lamb
Our ancestors ... were laborers, not lawyers. - Thomas Jefferson
Do not judge, and you will never be mistaken. - Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Keep skunks, bankers and lawyers at a distance. - Unknown
There's a strong criminal relement up there. - Archie Bunker
Lawyers are the foot soldiers of our Constitution. - Rennard Strickland
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. - Martin Luther King Jr.
It's every man's business to see justice done. - Arthur Conan Doyle
It is an ill cause that the lawyer thinks shame o'. - John Ray
Justice is a law of nature rarely found in human affairs. - Unknown
What a cage is to the wild beast, law is to the selfish man. - Herbert Spencer
A lawyer's opinion is worth nothing unless it is paid for. - Unknown
My photographs don't do me justice – they just look like me. - Phyllis Diller
Sometimes the strength of motherhood is greater than natural laws. - Barbara Kingsolver
A society that has more justice is a society that needs less charity. - Ralph Nader
The wisest man is the silent one. Examine his actions. Judge him by them. - Karen M Moning
The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law. - Aristotle
I just got back from a pleasure trip. I took my mother-in-law to the airport. - Henny Youngman
Litigation: A machine which you go into as a pig and come out of as a sausage. - Ambrose Bierce
True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of justice. - Martin Luther King, Jr.
Time is money, especially when you're talking to a lawyer or an accountant. - Joe-kster
If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey, he is obligated to do so. - Thomas Jefferson
I was never ruined but twice: once when I lost a lawsuit and once when I won one. - Voltaire
Lawyers are operators of toll bridges which anyone in search of justice must pass. - Jane Bryant Quinn
To make laws that man cannot, and will not obey, serves to bring all law into contempt. - Elizabeth C Stanton
Show me a Jewish boy who doesn't go to medical school and I'll show you a lawyer. - Milton Berle
What right does Congress have to go around making laws just because they deem it necessary? - Marion Barry
Grammar, which knows how to lord it over kings, and with high hands makes them obey its laws. - Moliere
Lawyers get you out'n the kind of trouble you'd never get in if there was no lawyers. - Ken Alstad
If two friends ask you to judge a dispute, don't accept, because you will lose one friend. - St. Augustine
Lawyers are the only civil delinquents whose judges must of necessity be chosen from themselves. - Charles C Colton
The trouble with our laws these days is that the criminals know their rights better than their wrongs. - Unknown
Beware of lawyers and consultants and people who do not take risks and who do not get their hands dirty. - Felix G Rohatyn
People are getting smarter nowadays; they are letting lawyers, instead of their conscience, be their guide. - Will Rogers
The legal system is often a mystery, and we, its priests, preside over rituals baffling to everyday citizens. - Henry G. Miller
People judge you by your actions, not your intentions. You may have a heart of gold, but so has a hard-boiled egg. - Unknown
Some lawyers are like unto the camel, which, before drinking out of a brook, maketh the water turbid with his foot. - Adolphus W Ward
The judicial system is the most expensive machine ever invented for finding out what happened and what to do about it. - Irving R. Kaufman
When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you, you know your nation is doomed. - Ayn Rand
When the monetary damages are smaller, lawyers will find themselves less zealous in their pursuit of what they call justice. - Dean O'Hare
If we judge ourselves only by our aspirations and everyone else only their conduct we shall soon reach a very false conclusion. - Calvin Coolidge
There is a direct relationship between a person's grasp and experience of God's grace and his or her heart for justice. - Unknown
When you go into court you are putting your fate into the hands of twelve people who weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty. - Norm Crosby
The denial of an objective moral law based on the compulsion to deny the existence of God results ultimately in the denial of evil itself. - Ravi Zacharias
There must be some honest lawyers at the New York bar, and some impartial judges on the New York bench, but I should not like to be set to find them. - Lyman Abbott
see also
Legal Section
Justice Is Blind - Part 2
Gun Laws
Legal Assistance For All
Memorial Service for Ed Schellenberg
Surrey Six Trial - Word Search Puzzle
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